"As a psychotherapist, for years I learned that the story was the important thing. How we talked about the story. And then I learned about the glue that holds the story together and that created the story in the first place. And to me, that's the energy. The energy is what either flows or doesn't that makes us feel alive or not. Because for living things, energy, is supposed to flow. And if it doesn't or if it gets stuck somewhere, then we feel bad. We feel constricted. We feel stuck in some way." — Dr. Laurie Weiss
Dr. Laurie Weiss, psychotherapist, coach and author of Letting It Go, has helped more than 60,000 individuals reclaim life energy and find joy in life for more than four decades.
She has taught professionals in 13 countries and authored 13 books that make complex information accessible to anyone: Free Reduce Worry Starting Now.
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[00:00:00] Curt Mercadante: Hey there, freedom lovers and welcome to yet another wonderful interview. We feature here on the freedom media network. Uh, we are focused on helping you live your life of joy, fulfillment, and freedom, and each and every one of our guests support that mission. We hope we can help you learn and, and provide you the tools that you.
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[00:01:08] The only cost to you is taking out your smartphone. It's probably out anyways, put it to use for you. Text Freeman to 5, 5, 6, 7. So let's jump into today's episode. I'm really excited to welcome Dr. Laurie Weiss. She's a psychotherapist coach and author, but wonderful book that I had the pleasure of reading this past week called letting it go.
[00:01:29] She's helped more than 60,000 individuals reclaim life. Energy and find joy in life for more than four decades. She's taught professionals in 13 countries and authored 13 books. That must be your lucky number 13, I guess that makes complex information accessible to anyone you can actually access her free, reduce, worry, starting now program.
[00:01:53] If you go to Lori weiss.com, we'll put that in the show notes, Dr. Weiss, thank you so much for joining us
[00:01:59] Dr. Laurie Weiss: today. [00:02:00] It's my pleasure. I'm delighted to join. You
[00:02:03] Curt Mercadante: know, it's, um, everything in your book, everything in what we're gonna talk about. Probably a term that I had never heard before, and some others have never heard logo synthesis.
[00:02:12] Um, all comes back to something. We talk about a lot and discuss a lot on this program, which is energy. Um, so I'd love to ask you, you know, when people hear about energy and they may say, say things like, oh, I sat down next to that person. I got a bad vibe for them, but then if you, or I talk to them about energy, they think it's somehow like magic, woo, woo.
[00:02:34] Mystical stuff. And they say, I don't even want to touch that spiritual stuff. Can you share, uh, with our audience, some of whom are new to these modalities, the concept of energy and why it's so important to our lives.
[00:02:50] Dr. Laurie Weiss: You know, that is one of the toughest questions I've ever been asked. um, I, I had a teacher [00:03:00] once, um, very important teacher to me and he said, nobody knows what energy is.
[00:03:07] We think we know, and there are words for it in every culture. And we use it. We use the concept. and we don't know exactly what it is. Uh, one way I like to think about it is that if you're trying to map a city, you can map the trees in the city. You can map the footpaths in the city. Hmm. You can map the roads in the city.
[00:03:38] You can map the sewers in the city. They're all maps of the city and they're all true. Our point of view, as a psychotherapist for years, I learned that the story was the important thing. Hmm. How we talked about the story. And then I learned about the glue that holds the story together, [00:04:00] and that created the story in the first place.
[00:04:03] And to me, that's the energy. The energy is what either flows or doesn't that makes us feel alive or not of. For living things, energy is supposed to flow. And if it doesn't or if it gets stuck somewhere, then we feel bad. We feel constricted. We feel stuck in some way. And so that's the way I conceptualize working with it, but I don't know what it is.
[00:04:36] Curt Mercadante: Yeah. Yeah. It, it, it's almost like a, uh, when boulders fall off a mountain and dam up the river, mm-hmm right. That, that water is stopped. Now, the water can find a way. And my wife and I went to the Hoover dam recently and, and we stopped by there. And it's funny how we humans think, oh, we've controlled nature and we haven't controlled it.
[00:04:56] The energy is bottling up behind it. I mean, that's why [00:05:00] the dam has to be so big. Right? Mm-hmm . How does that happen with a, with a human, if we avoid, or we bottle things up? What happens to that energy within us?
[00:05:10] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Well, when we're born, our energy is flowing freely. Hmm. And then we can hit all kinds of situations, whether we're tiny, tiny, tiny, or, you know, 50 years old.
[00:05:25] And we can't manage. For some reason what, what we do, doesn't have an effect on the world, the way we expect it to the way we want it to. And when, when we get uncomfortable with that, we can't manage it. We're, it's UN it hurts in some way. And so we manage to close it up to scrunch it up, to freeze it so that we don't feel it anymore.
[00:05:54] And then we put a shell around. And the more shells and the more frozen things we [00:06:00] have, the more separated we are from the source of the energy and people call the source of the energy, the true self. They call the source of the energy. God, they call the source of the energy, the universe. Uh, there are many, many things, but it's that energy source that keeps us going that can get blocked when we simply don't know how to manage something in our circumstances.
[00:06:27] Curt Mercadante: you, you were a therapist long before. Um, You came upon logo synthesis, which we talked more about. And in your book, you, you, you write of a specific circumstance. I think it was regarding, uh, noise. Uh, and I think it was in a re was it in a restaurant? Uh, yes. Or am I conflating two, two stories? Yeah. This is my favorite story.
[00:06:47] And, and, and it's obvious, you said you tried breathing and tapping, which I teach our clients. Mm-hmm but so you had these modalities, you, you were a therapist and then you came upon. [00:07:00] New form of therapy. Did it, how did that coincide and align with what you already knew and were already helping people with and why was it kind of that next step?
[00:07:11] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Well, first of all, I thought that the breathing had worked and that the tapping had worked. And I was pretty calm after my incident at the restaurant where I was overwhelmed. Noise and intensity and food that I couldn't eat and things like that. And I thought I was ready to go. And a friend who happens to be a psychiatrist came out and he said, you know, what are you okay?
[00:07:43] I said, sure, I'm fine. And he said, tell me what happened. And I explained to him, I was going along, going along and then the heavier, the noise got all of a sudden, I sort of scrunched in my body, went [00:08:00] and I had thought I'd released that. And he said, do you wanna try and experiment, you know, say these words with me.
[00:08:10] And I trusted them, trusted him a lot. And I said, sure. So we're standing in the parking lot. And he has me say these words. Just repeat them. I don't know what I'm saying. It doesn't make any sense to me. And all of a sudden I felt an incredibly profound relaxation. Hmm. And at that point it was like, is this the stuff you've been talking about that I thought was crazy.
[00:08:39] Hmm. And yeah. And then it was like, I was ready to retire at that point. And it was . um, okay. I gotta learn about it. You know, tell me more. And then he set [00:09:00] up training for my, it was in Nova Scotia and we were traveling almost every weekend that fall and he set up a training on the only weekend we could come.
[00:09:12] Hmm. Just so that we could be there and do it. Uh, we were long time colleagues. . And so I went and I did not really understand what I'd been doing, but I'd been involved in spiritual studies for many years and I somehow managed to, to do things and I decided to try it.
[00:09:40] So the next weekend, I think it was, or the weekend AF anyhow, very soon after my husband and I were on a cruise. And it was a, a group crews of, um, internet marketers at that time. And we said, we learned this new tool. We don't know what it means. We have no [00:10:00] idea why it works, but we're, we need to practice.
[00:10:03] And if anybody wants to practice, you know, come see us. And so we started practicing and the first person that I practiced with. A woman who was standing on the edge of the, uh, who, who was standing back. We were all on the edge of the boat, you know, looking out and waving goodbye like that. And she was standing back and I said, here there's room for you at the rail, come join us.
[00:10:28] And she said, oh, I couldn't, I couldn't do that. I might fall over. Have you ever been on a cruise boat?
[00:10:35] Curt Mercadante: I haven't, I haven't. Okay. I've avoided. I probably have some beliefs that prevent me from going
[00:10:39] Dr. Laurie Weiss: OK. Well, we can work on those later if you'd like, but the, the cruise boat rail hits me about here. I'm about five, four, so you know it, and she was about the same height.
[00:10:53] So to fall off a cruise ship takes a great deal of effort. Hmm. But she was scared about [00:11:00] it. and I said, I think maybe I could help with that if you like. And later on that night in the get together party in a cocktail lounge on, on the ship, we were talking, I said, you know, you wanna try it? So we went off in the corner and I said, those words for her, it's just three sentences.
[00:11:26] And then she said to. I think my gyroscope is broken and I went, huh? It was like, I don't know. Alright. So we said the words again about her gyroscope, her internal gyroscope that was broken. And then all of a sudden she looked up and she said, now I can write on escalators too. I was stunned. Like you are.
[00:11:53] Yeah. Just like what is going on here? I have no idea. And I. [00:12:00] Practicing playing with it. And, um, she was great. She had no more problems. She brought me somebody who was seasick and said, does this work on seasickness and not having a clue? I said, well, of course it does. And tried it. And it turned out that what that woman was worried about was being stuck in her cap.
[00:12:23] And she'd always been seasick. She'd never been on a boat when she wasn't seas. Hmm. And so we decided to do that, turned out the energy was stuck and being left out, being stuck in her cabin. That was the picture she had in her mind. So we took the energy out of that picture and she wasn't seasick anymore.
[00:12:46] Wow. And she never got seasick again on the boat. She even went on a small boat and she didn't get seasick and she was so excited and. I don't know exactly what's going [00:13:00] on here, but I was totally intrigued and had to keep learning it. So that's how I got involved. I mean, up until then, I was teaching developmental theory.
[00:13:12] I'm world, world renowned, basically for teaching people how to use developmental theory along with psychotherapy. To heal. The inner child, John Bradshaw gave us all kinds of praise, did intros to books and things like that. So this was just so intriguing. I had to keep learning. And what I learned had something to do with it's, the story is useful up to a point.
[00:13:51] But most of what we have as problems are reactions and their reactions to the some sort of event that either has [00:14:00] happened in the past, or we're afraid will happen in the future or we've experienced or, um, well, I guess that that's enough. I've gotten it tangled with , um, past future. um, anyway, and when we deal with the, the energy in that issue, it dissolves.
[00:14:32] And so there's no reason to have the problem. Hmm. And the problem goes away. Like the seasickness.
[00:14:39] Curt Mercadante: Yeah. Physical problems, not just a lot of people think of therapy and they think of, oh, well, I'm just gonna talk about my emotions and my thoughts, but you're, you're talking about. things here
[00:14:49] Dr. Laurie Weiss: that, that doesn't work often physical things really.
[00:14:52] Okay. It, it doesn't, I mean, probably, you know, about dense energy and light energy and [00:15:00] emotional energy is much easier to work with mm-hmm than physical energy that takes, uh, an accident of faith or something. Because one of the things about in psychotherapy, I pretty well had a map about what I was doing.
[00:15:17] And what would happen. And this process forces me to turn the process over to the universe, to universal energy and to the internal healing process, whatever that is. Hmm. And I never know what's gonna happen, you know, Aquin says, should I do it this? No, we don't know. your own process will make it work. Not forcing it.
[00:15:48] You're not in control. That was the hardest thing. Hmm. I mean, I am not in control and for my clients, we're not in control.
[00:15:57] Curt Mercadante: And you write about the letting go and, and that letting [00:16:00] go is like with my clients, it, and for me, it's the biggest challenge and it's, and it's, and it's so interesting. It's, it's the common theme and spiritual all, you know, spiritual, religious teachings.
[00:16:13] I mean, whether it's the gospel Buddha, it's about letting go. And yet all the conditioning and programming in our society is about
[00:16:20] Dr. Laurie Weiss: grasping. Yes, because we have. It's part of our development. We have to learn how to grasp, but it's a lot easier to grasp than to let go. Mm. You know, even, even when you think about a baby, you have, do you have children?
[00:16:38] Uh, four. Yeah. Okay. Remember when they were babies and cribs and learn to pull themselves up. Yeah. And couldn't figure out how to get down again, and then you don't hook them and they'd sit down and immediately they go up again. It's a learning process. Even at that level,
[00:16:58] Curt Mercadante: the, the events [00:17:00] that you talk about that might be an event in the past, that is, that is stored energy.
[00:17:04] And in your book, you write about a, a, a young girl and her mom and the mom is busy and the girl is just being a girl, a little kid and is loud. And the mom says something like says something. Innocent. Right. She doesn't mean ill will to the girl. Like something like every time I'm trying to do something you're loud or something.
[00:17:22] And that carries over to when the girl is 50 right or 40. Oh yes. Is it stored in your subconscious? Is that where that energy gets stored or that memory
[00:17:35] Dr. Laurie Weiss: it's stored in some sort of brain pattern? I don't think I could call it subconscious, but it's, we, we. When we're approaching problems, when we're trying to figure out how the world is, we make decisions about what the world is like and what we're like, because that's the, that's the challenge of every human being.
[00:17:59] [00:18:00] Who am I? Who are you? Who are all these other people and how do we fit together? And that's part of maturity. That's learning. When we make decisions. When we're little kids, we don't do it logically because kids don't have logic. Hmm. Kids do it. You know, the thunder goes off when I'm raising the light switch.
[00:18:24] You don't think about the coincidence. It's just, I made it thunder and that's scary.
[00:18:31] Curt Mercadante: and that might stick with you forever. Right? Mm-hmm . Yeah. Um, back real quick to the letting go and attachment you. You write something in the book that I love this. I highlighted this line in the book. We need attachment for survival and we need to let go for growth.
[00:18:47] Yes. Can you explain that a bit?
[00:18:50] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Well, we grow up attached and we're born until we're born. We're attached when we [00:19:00] are born our first job. is to reattach in a different way. As we get into preschool, we need to attach to kids outside our parents. We need to find out what the world is like people lived tribally and even developmentally there's a tribal period.
[00:19:28] And when you go to school, you wanna be with your friends, whoever they are, we are attaching over and over and over again because we're human beings and that's natural. But when you wanna try something new, you can't keep doing it the old way. Hmm. And kids who are not traumatized particularly. I mean, we're all traumatized some but kids who aren't traumatized, particularly just go for new.
[00:19:57] They're really excited and try it like that. But if we've been [00:20:00] traumatized or, you know, even if we have a nature that says, and I'm a little more timid, it's hard to try something new because it might not work. Mm. It might not work the way we let the way we're used to it working, or people might not like it and might ostracize us for trying it.
[00:20:23] So it's a real push and pull. And I'm sure you've had clients who, you know, I don't, you know, if I change, nobody will know me, nobody, I wouldn't even know myself. They won't like me. Hmm. And that's what we have to take the risk of doing. And there is a risk and some people have more tools than others. And getting those tools is still important.
[00:20:53] This is a tool. And this is a philosophy and this is a way of, of working, [00:21:00] but the, just the tools of navigating the world are important. Hmm.
[00:21:07] Curt Mercadante: Well, the speaking of tools. So the, the tool and mention this word before Logosynthesis, um, I, we're gonna jump in and allow you to explain and use me as a, as a, uh, as a lab rat.
[00:21:19] Uh okay. In doing it and showing how it works, but before we get there, can you, can you discuss kind of broadly what it is? Uh, we know how you came. I assume that well, not, I assume I read it the book, but I assume people here are assuming that the person that you met at that restaurant used Logosynthesis and you mentioned he used those words, uh, yes.
[00:21:38] To help you, uh, can you give us some background on briefly what Logosynthesis is? We'll jump into it and show people what it is and where it comes from.
[00:21:46] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Okay. Um, what it is, is a way of using words to move. It's that simple. And [00:22:00] the, the refinement parts are figuring out what energy to move, figuring out where the energy is stuck and learning how to move it.
[00:22:12] Hmm. And as I said before, energy is either moving or it's stuck and it's in the right place or the wrong place. And if it's in the wrong place, you wanna bring it back to the right. Or get it out of where it doesn't belong. Hmm. And it was discovered more or less accidentally by Dr. Will Lamers in Switzerland and his quest.
[00:22:41] He's a psychotherapist with all kinds of training. BEC he in Europe, people do a great deal of academic work. and, and he kept thinking, there's gotta be an easier way, had spiritual work this, and [00:23:00] he, there's gotta be a, a better way than this painful stuff that people have to go through in order to heal.
[00:23:09] And one day he was working as a consultant with a woman who had amnesia about and, and had trouble. Physically, um, knowing where her body was. And this happened after an accident and he intuitively asked her, she said something like a European metaphor. If I'm standing beside my shoes, which is I'm a little bit outta my body, I don't know any, he saw that sort of.
[00:23:47] You got an impression of it, if you've ever seen auras you yeah. You know, that kind of thing. And he asked her to move back into her body and somehow that clicked. [00:24:00] And all of the memories that had been stored started pouring out. And the emotions that had been stored started pouring out. And by the time.
[00:24:14] She was done. And this had been a very, very difficult, nobody had been able to work with her. She was comfortable in the world again, and it was like, he was what, you know, what happened here, like any good researcher Hmm. And started practicing and developing. And he's been doing it for the last 16 years.
[00:24:37] And it's been. More and more things keep coming up. There are more and more possible protocols. I don't write about those. He does at this point. Uh, but it's quite remarkable when I wrote this book. I think it was six years ago and I've revised it since then, because [00:25:00] Logosynthesis has developed further since then.
[00:25:03] Um, I. This really is simple. Hmm. To do it. It's not simple in concept, but just the, the way of doing it works. And it shouldn't be confined as to psychotherapists. And Dr. Lamers agreed with me. Hmm. And encouraged me to write it for the general public. And for a long time, it became the, the introductory text for professionals.
[00:25:36] And to logo synthesis. And he said, you know, do this person then take the class and learn how, but that gives you a way to do it. And so people started doing it and I kept getting all these letters on Amazon from people I didn't know, and had no connection with saying it worked things I've been trying to do for years worked.[00:26:00]
[00:26:00] Uh, it worked easily. I couldn't believe it.
[00:26:07] Hmm. So it, it's just learning the words and learning where to apply them and learning the words is much easier than learning to apply them. I have to say that.
[00:26:18] Curt Mercadante: Do you think that now you, you had tried other modalities and, and you had, um, uh, been a spiritual person prior to the incident at the restaurant?
[00:26:27] I guess. So I, I was gonna ask, you know, if, if it hadn't worked for you and you hadn't experienced it yourself, is it something that would have, uh, that you may have resisted a little bit because it went against maybe, uh, everything you had been taught as a therapist.
[00:26:45] Dr. Laurie Weiss: I had seen a presentation on it. Where it was presented intellectually and made no sense at all.
[00:26:55] and I dismissed it and went and learned something else that year. [00:27:00] Hm. Um, and it was the presentation by the friend who worked with me in the parking lot. Oh, really? Uhhuh , which is why when I teach it, I never teach too much because you have to experience. for the most part before you believe in it. Yeah, that, that was my experience.
[00:27:22] And many people have that, you know, I gotta try this, you know, this doesn't make any sense and it still doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, years later. And now I'm a master practitioner still doesn't make sense at times, but it works. I, I don't pretend to understand that level of the world.
[00:27:47] Curt Mercadante: But you let go, right?
[00:27:48] but I, let
[00:27:49] Dr. Laurie Weiss: go, let go. But I let.
[00:27:52] Curt Mercadante: Well, speaking of experiencing it, shall we, shall we jump in and, and, and a, uh, so people can hear what the words are. And, and [00:28:00] before for everyone listening and watching, before we got on, uh, Dr. Weiss asked me if I would like to, uh, experience Logosynthesis in, in something that I have going on in my life.
[00:28:10] And I said, yes, anyone watching or, or listening knows that I'm, I'm always willing to be, uh, experimented upon. So yes, .
[00:28:18] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Okay. Yeah. Um, Is there something you'd like to work on or would you like to try the thing about, you know, you don't, you don't want to go on cruise ships.
[00:28:29] Curt Mercadante: Yeah. The, the cruise ship thing is so small, but one thing that came into my head that I think might work is, is, or something I've been thinking about or dealing with, especially in the last two weeks is, you know, I've always, uh, had, um, uh, experiences, challenges, cetera with my weight and my body image, going back to growing.
[00:28:50] Overweight, bullied, beat up all that. And I've gotten an incredible shape, et cetera. One thing I've realized over doing some work, [00:29:00] various work and, and energy work and, and things over the past year is that about 13 years ago, I actually created a belief that I had food allergies and intolerances and gluten and other things.
[00:29:18] And I, I realized that I had created it because it was easier to avoid foods. If I said they were gonna make me sick than if I had to rely on willpower. So I've cleared these things, I've done some other things physically. I can eat gluten, I can eat anything. Now my issue is this. I have a, an anxiety which then sometimes translates into a little binge eating thing where, okay, I can have some gluten, but then it turns into like a loaf of.
[00:29:49] so it's kind of an anxiety, but there's that energy there translates into, oh my gosh. Now that I can eat it and I, I'm not gluten intolerant, I'm gonna balloon up. [00:30:00] And then next thing I know I'm that energy translates into me doing the activity. I don't necessarily . Does that make sense?
[00:30:10] Dr. Laurie Weiss: well, yes and no, because it isn't logical.
[00:30:13] Right,
[00:30:14] Curt Mercadante: right, right. right.
[00:30:19] Dr. Laurie Weiss: I'm writing down the words I heard so that I, I remember them. Exactly. And then I'll tell you what they were.
[00:30:34] What you said was the thing that causes the anxiety is a belief that you're going to balloon up. Mm. Is that fit for you? Oh yeah. That's your words. Yes. And so I listened for where the energy shifted as you were talking, and that's what, that's where it came up. I had. Leap and that's where the energy is.
[00:30:59] So [00:31:00] I'm going to have you, I'm going to say some words and you've read them right now. I'm coughing. So I'm, I hope I don't interfere with things. My, I see throat is a little bit dry.
[00:31:19] If I do just start over that, on that sentence, there are three sentence. I will give them to you in pieces. And when you're saying them, you may not even understand them. That's okay. Mm. Because the part of you that understands is not the part of you, that changes. Hmm. I'm gonna use the word I, and the eye in this case refers to your higher self or to the, your essence.
[00:31:50] And that's not the part of you that controls your eating. Hmm. That's not the part of [00:32:00] you. This is, I can have this and I can't have that. I won't do this. Not that part. It's another part that knows what's good for you and how to get your energy aligned. When I, after I say the sentence, I'm gonna ask you to.
[00:32:17] Stop and breathe and notice what's going on. You don't tell me about it. Just notice it, notice any thoughts that you have, any feelings, any pictures that come up, anything that shifts and changes.
[00:32:38] Curt Mercadante: Should I close my eyes and am, and am I, am I repeating what you're saying or no, not at this point.
[00:32:42] Dr. Laurie Weiss: You're repeating what I say in, in chunks.
[00:32:45] Okay. And you can close your eyes or not. Okay. And before we start, do you have an image of you all
[00:32:52] Curt Mercadante: blown up? Um, a little bit. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:32:57] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Okay. Where is that image now? [00:33:00] When you conjure it up, where is it? Is it in front of you like that? Is it somewhere out in the distance?
[00:33:06] Curt Mercadante: No, I feel like it's right in the center of my skull.
[00:33:09] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Okay. All right. So remember that image and, and on a level of distress between one and 10, how much distress does this? Cause
[00:33:21] Curt Mercadante: I feel about like a, I feel six or seven. Okay.
[00:33:27] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Okay. We'll put those things aside for. And we'll come back to them later. Okay. You ready for the words? Yes. Okay. The words are, I retrieve all my own energy say
[00:33:44] Curt Mercadante: that I retrieve all my own energy
[00:33:47] Dr. Laurie Weiss: found up in this belief.
[00:33:49] Say
[00:33:49] Curt Mercadante: that found up bound up in this belief
[00:33:52] Dr. Laurie Weiss: that I was going to balloon up,
[00:33:55] Curt Mercadante: that I was going to balloon.
[00:33:57] Dr. Laurie Weiss: And I take my energy [00:34:00]
[00:34:00] Curt Mercadante: and I take
[00:34:00] Dr. Laurie Weiss: my energy to the right place in
[00:34:02] Curt Mercadante: myself, to the right place in myself.
[00:34:05] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Okay. Now just breathe and notice what happens and with a client, I might do it for a long time.
[00:34:11] We'll do it for a short time.
[00:34:15] Just notice what happens and notice what's going on in your mind in your body.
[00:34:24] Let that come. And then when you're through with it, then tell me that you're ready or open your eyes and look at me and say, okay, okay. The next sentence is I remove all not me, energy.
[00:34:44] Curt Mercadante: I remove all not me, energy
[00:34:47] Dr. Laurie Weiss: related to this belief
[00:34:49] Curt Mercadante: related to this belief
[00:34:52] Dr. Laurie Weiss: that I am going to balloon.
[00:34:54] Curt Mercadante: That I'm going to
[00:34:55] Dr. Laurie Weiss: balloon up.
[00:34:57] I remove that energy. I remove that
[00:34:59] Curt Mercadante: [00:35:00] energy
[00:35:00] Dr. Laurie Weiss: from all of my cells, from all of my cells, from all of my body, from all of my body and my personal space
[00:35:10] Curt Mercadante: and my personal space.
[00:35:11] Dr. Laurie Weiss: And I send it to her truly
[00:35:13] Curt Mercadante: belongs and I send it to where it truly belongs.
[00:35:17] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Okay. Now, stop and breathe again. Just notice again and tell me when you're ready to move.
[00:35:38] Curt Mercadante: Okay.
[00:35:40] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Okay. The third sentence is I retrieve all my energy.
[00:35:44] Curt Mercadante: I retrieve all my energy
[00:35:46] Dr. Laurie Weiss: bound up in all of my
[00:35:47] Curt Mercadante: reactions bound up in all of my reactions
[00:35:51] Dr. Laurie Weiss: to this belief. To this belief that I am going to balloon up,
[00:35:57] Curt Mercadante: that I'm going to balloon up [00:36:00] and I take my energy and I take my energy
[00:36:03] Dr. Laurie Weiss: to the right place in myself to the
[00:36:05] Curt Mercadante: right place in myself.
[00:36:08] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Notice, breathe again. Notice again.
[00:36:33] Curt Mercadante: Okay.
[00:36:34] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Okay. Now tell us what you've experienced.
[00:36:41] Curt Mercadante: Um, on the first set of words, I felt a, uh, it was either a pressure or a lightness or both. It was kind of almost like there was, you know, on an airplane where the there's pressure inside and outside, and they're different. I felt that in my head, uh, I couldn't tell you if the pressure [00:37:00] was more on the outside or the inside, but there was, it felt like a depressurization on the second set.
[00:37:05] I didn't feel much on the third. As we were talking, I felt nauseous as I was talking all of a sudden as if I was going to get sick and I'm sweating right now. Mm-hmm I have a, it it's almost like a cold sweat. Okay.
[00:37:27] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Yeah. And when you look at that picture of you ballooning up. has it changed?
[00:37:41] Curt Mercadante: You know, what's interesting is it's a picture I have. It's a physical picture. I have mm-hmm and when I saw it before I was, it was zoomed in on me. Mm-hmm , I'm still in the picture, but it's now zoomed out in my family's in it, which is very interesting Uhhuh . [00:38:00]
[00:38:00] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Okay. And then my last question. well, I've got two more at what level does that cause you distress now?
[00:38:12] Curt Mercadante: Um, I'd say it might be down to a two, cuz everyone's smiling in the picture and it reminds me of a good time. We are on, we are on the water. okay, great.
[00:38:23] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Yeah. Okay. And how strong is that belief? Well, what about that belief that I'm going to balloon.
[00:38:35] Curt Mercadante: Yeah, I don't know, I guess is the, is the, is the answer I'm I, you know, I'm trying to think about it right now, but I, I almost feel like the next time I have a I'm gonna reach for something is when it kind of gets triggered a little bit Uhhuh that maybe I'll know then wow. It, I didn't reach for her. I'm not anxious or I'm not.
[00:38:58] Um,[00:39:00]
[00:39:03] I do feel physical. I mean, I am really sweating right now, Uhhuh , which is very interesting. which means energy
[00:39:08] Dr. Laurie Weiss: is moving. Yeah. What, what happens is I I've had people go, you know, feel nothing and have I I've had people had violent, violent, physical reactions. Hmm. Totally UN predict. and everything in between, they cough, they sneeze, they yawn yawning is real common.
[00:39:33] Hmm. And it's just a sign of energy moving. And once the energy gets moving, it tends to keep on moving and may change over the next few days. Hmm. And like any kind of work like that, drink drinking a lot of water.
[00:39:53] Curt Mercadante: I still feel, you know what it's it's, it's not nauseous. It's, it's like my neck up to my [00:40:00] jaw, but almost like something's caught there.
[00:40:04] Okay. As if, as if I just ate something, it's not nauseous. I don't know. It, it almost feels like it it's, it's a noticeable change and, and I'm, I mean, I'm. Uh, perspiring now. um, okay. But yeah, it's, uh, actually, as I talk, it's almost hard to
[00:40:23] Dr. Laurie Weiss: talk. So it's caught between your neck and your jaw.
[00:40:27] Curt Mercadante: Yeah.
[00:40:28] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Yeah. Would you like to do the next round on this?
[00:40:32] Sure. Usually I don't on, on a show. Okay. I retrieve all my energy.
[00:40:38] Curt Mercadante: I retrieve all my energy
[00:40:40] Dr. Laurie Weiss: found up in what's caught between my neck and my.
[00:40:44] Curt Mercadante: Bound up in, what's caught between my neck and my jaw
[00:40:48] Dr. Laurie Weiss: and I take my energy and I take my energy to the right place and myself
[00:40:54] Curt Mercadante: to the right place and myself.[00:41:00]
[00:41:07] Dr. Laurie Weiss: So you're just breathing, noticing what's going.
[00:41:15] That's perfectly okay. To take whatever time you need on this. Hmm. Some people take a very long time. Some people take a short time.
[00:41:34] So as your energy moves, just keep on breathing and noticing what's going. You don't have to think about it. Just keep noticing it till you're ready to, to move on. And when you're ready to move on, just let me know. It's okay to do it this way. Hmm. I'm ready.
[00:41:54] Curt Mercadante: Uh, what, what was happening was, you know, I, I, I breathe through my belly, [00:42:00] you know, mm-hmm and as I was, as the breath was rising, it was hitting the neck.
[00:42:05] And I almost describe it almost as. the, when the breath returned to my belly, it was taking pieces or chunks of it down with it, into my belly. Mm-hmm and now it's gone. Okay. And every breath kind of went up and went almost like this and attached it and brought it down right into my, you know, my center, which is very interesting.
[00:42:29] And I talk, I don't feel like I'm gonna. Throw up or okay. Or get, or get lock jaw or whatever. I, I can't describe how it was. It was almost like a, a heavy feeling almost where my glands were almost, but now loose. Very loose.
[00:42:45] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Okay. Ordinarily I would finish the sentences with somebody. This is your show. Do you want to finish the sentences?
[00:42:53] Curt Mercadante: Sure. Yeah, we've gone this far.
[00:42:55] Dr. Laurie Weiss: okay. I remove all of the, not [00:43:00] me.
[00:43:01] Curt Mercadante: I remove all of the, not me energy
[00:43:04] Dr. Laurie Weiss: related to what was caught between my neck and my jaw
[00:43:09] Curt Mercadante: related to what was caught between my neck and my jaw.
[00:43:14] Dr. Laurie Weiss: I remove that energy.
[00:43:16] Curt Mercadante: I remove that energy from all
[00:43:18] Dr. Laurie Weiss: of my cells,
[00:43:20] Curt Mercadante: from all of my cells, from all of my body, from all of
[00:43:24] Dr. Laurie Weiss: my body and from my personal space.
[00:43:28] Curt Mercadante: And from my personal space
[00:43:29] Dr. Laurie Weiss: and I send it to where it truly belongs
[00:43:32] Curt Mercadante: and I send it to where it truly belongs.
[00:43:34] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Okay. Take your time again.
[00:43:44] And your readers and listeners are discovering much more about the full process rather than a little piece of it. Yeah, absolutely. It's okay. To just breathe and notice, whatever it is that's [00:44:00] happening is fine. There's no right and wrong way to do this every way is just fine to breathe and notice what's happening.
[00:44:13] It's okay to let go. It's okay. To do whatever you need to do.
[00:44:23] Curt Mercadante: there's no air conditioning on in here or anything. There's nothing blowing. I felt as if a cool breeze was being blown onto me. Mm-hmm that I was very warm before and it settled in my hands. My hands got very cold, um, and they're not cold anymore, but I, and I'm not sweating. Well, my hands are a little cold.
[00:44:47] My hands still feel a little bit cold, but the I'm not sweating anymore. I'm Dr. I'm completely dry. . bodies are
[00:44:55] Dr. Laurie Weiss: fascinating.
[00:44:56] Curt Mercadante: Yeah.
[00:44:58] Dr. Laurie Weiss: All right, let's do the third [00:45:00] sentence. Sure. I retrieve all my energy.
[00:45:03] Curt Mercadante: I retrieve all my energy bound up in
[00:45:05] Dr. Laurie Weiss: all of my reactions
[00:45:07] Curt Mercadante: bound up in all of my reactions
[00:45:10] Dr. Laurie Weiss: to what was caught between my neck and my jaw
[00:45:13] Curt Mercadante: to what was caught between my neck and my jaw.
[00:45:16] And I take my energy and I take
[00:45:18] Dr. Laurie Weiss: my energy to the right place in.
[00:45:21] Curt Mercadante: To the right place in.
[00:45:46] Hmm.
[00:45:51] That cool feeling rose. And as my eyes were closed, it didn't get brighter in here, but it got brighter behind my eyes. Okay. [00:46:00]
[00:46:00] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Yeah. All right. And now when you think about, um, that you might balloon up, what do you think?
[00:46:09] Curt Mercadante: You know, I, that picture is almost as if it's on a it's on a TV that I can't tune. like it, I can't focus on the picture right now, which is very odd.
[00:46:18] It's almost like I forgot about it, but can't retrieve it. Not unusual at all. Huh? Yeah. Like I like the antenna. Isn't isn't quite getting the signal.
[00:46:28] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Mm-hmm that means that the belief isn't there. Wow.
[00:46:36] Curt Mercadante: Hmm. Yeah. And I, I really felt that energy. Wow. Do you, do you ever have, uh, is there a, is there a processing time afterwards?
[00:46:46] You said, you know, some people kind of react physically. Have you ever noticed like the next day, like all of a sudden they sleep, I've done some other modalities, uh, one called emotion code where I fell asleep for like 12 hours and was just, you know, that energy moving [00:47:00] around. it definitely
[00:47:01] Dr. Laurie Weiss: can have that effect.
[00:47:02] Yeah. When energy moves, your body knows what it needs. And if you let it do what it needs, then it process it, processes it more quickly. Wow. It's a very powerful process.
[00:47:18] Curt Mercadante: And if you do it yourself, do you, um, Do you have to say the words out loud? Uh, or can you do it in your, like, if you're on an airplane, can you do it in your head?
[00:47:29] Does it work that way? It,
[00:47:31] Dr. Laurie Weiss: it does. When you're learning it, it helps to say it out loud when you're learning it, it helps to memorize the words and do it and even works. It works even better. If you can get a partner to do it with you, because you have, when you're doing it yourself, you have to switch back and forth between different modalities.
[00:47:49] Mm.
[00:47:50] Curt Mercadante: Okay.
[00:47:52] Dr. Laurie Weiss: and, but it works. I, I remember one time I had a really difficult time with a [00:48:00] conversation with somebody and I'm an expert at communication. I teach it all the time, you know, things like move, but this one, somebody was yelling at me for no apparent reason. um, and I kept processing it at. You know, I should have said this.
[00:48:17] I could have said this. What, what could I have done? And it was keeping, you know, I, I knew I wouldn't be able to sleep. And so I did it
[00:48:28] and excuse me,
[00:48:34] the dryness, when I talk happens, um, anyhow, as I was doing it, a picture came, oh, name came. Hmm. From 60 years earlier when I was in fifth grade and 10 years old had just moved to Chicago and there was somebody teasing me [00:49:00] continuously. I even remembered her name. Wow. I took my energy out of that. I repeated the process like we did with you.
[00:49:08] I slept, I totally forgot about the, the man who had been so nasty to me and it just vanished, but it, the energy gets stuck and we never know where it stuck. It may be stuck, you know, some, two weeks ago, or it may be stuck when we were five years old. We never know what's gonna
[00:49:30] Curt Mercadante: turn. is, is it important? Do you work with your clients to find out, find that out, find the, the source or not the source where it stuck before you do it?
[00:49:39] Or is that not as important?
[00:49:41] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Well, like I did with you, I, I had an impression of where it was stuck when you said this belief that I was going to balloon up. Oh, right. So as we were talking about what the problem was, I knew so. Sometimes I've [00:50:00] done it with people. And I had no clue what it was, somebody who didn't wanna disclose.
[00:50:06] And so took the energy out of the problem she was experiencing and she experienced a profound transformation. So all of those things just kept surprising. Hmm. And still do when I, when I do it. And of course now we're applying, Logosynthesis in lots and lots of different ways. So this is just the beginning.
[00:50:31] I call it the fast food version.
[00:50:34] Curt Mercadante: Well, you know, in terms of this being just the beginning, uh, I mentioned your book, letting it go, your website, Laurie weiss.com. We're gonna put links in. How do your clients work with you? Is it like you have a series of, of, or it depends on each client. Um, how do you, what do you offer in terms of your services?
[00:50:54] Dr. Laurie Weiss: Well, I, I now offer mostly consultation. Hmm. And. [00:51:00] Usually whatever the problem is, we can manage it with within three sessions. Mm. Remember, I'm pretty old. Um, I, I was supposed to retire 12 years ago when I was 70. So.
[00:51:18] Curt Mercadante: When you're doing what you, what you love, right.
[00:51:21] Dr. Laurie Weiss: right, right. So I, I do consultations. I do zoom consultations with people from all over the world if they feel like it.
[00:51:29] Wow. Um, yeah. And if somebody needs more help, like if they come from a, you know, very abusive situation or something like that, and there's a lot to work out, I usually find them, help them find another.
[00:51:44] Curt Mercadante: In your book, you actually write about someone that, that I think was in an abusive situation. You said it was gonna take six months and it took far shorter.
[00:51:50] Right? Cause it was so
[00:51:52] Dr. Laurie Weiss: powerful. That was another one that absolutely shocked me. I mean, it was, uh, a young woman, 17 year old girl [00:52:00] who had been just, just revealed that she had been sexually. Assaulted by a member of her family from the time she was five till the time she was 11. And she had never told anybody until she told a youth counselor who told her mother and wound up in my office.
[00:52:18] And I thought I could treat her in about six months. And we actually did two Logosynthesis sessions in, and we, we worked together for about six weeks because we were working on social things and relationships between her and her mom. But the Logosynthesis sessions worked very much like yours did the picture actually for her, the picture, um, crumbled.
[00:52:45] And she swept it up off the floor. Wow.
[00:52:51] That doesn't always happen. I hardly ever get pictures. It still works.
[00:52:56] Curt Mercadante: Yeah. Yeah. Well, Dr. Weiss, this [00:53:00] was, this was one of the most powerful episodes we've ever had because we actually went through the process so people could see and hear it. It was powerful for me physically. I mean, I felt it. Um, your website, Lori weiss.com.
[00:53:12] We're gonna put links in all the show notes. I really wanna thank. For coming on the show sharing Logosynthesis, it's something I had never heard of and anything we can do to help spread the word about your work about Logosynthesis. Please let me know how
[00:53:26] Dr. Laurie Weiss: we can do that. Thank you. Thank you. I really appreciate that because I think suffering is optional in so many cases, and this helps relieve that kind of suffering quickly and easily painlessly almost.
[00:53:43] Curt Mercadante: Well, thank you very much. LaurieWeiss.com . Please go check it out. Check out her books. Thank
[00:53:48] Dr. Laurie Weiss: you.